First of all, it's pointless to discuss whether Alien and Prometheus take place in the same universe. They do.
It's equally pointless to compare the technology of a 30 year old film to a new one, even though the new film takes place 33 years before the old one (in 2089). However, we'll do that anyway. And finally there's the question of sheer aesthetics. Elements that can't really be compared on a factual level, can be compared aesthetically and conceptually. We'll do that too. Oh, and of course there'll be major spoilers.
So, without further ado...
AVP: ALIEN VS PROMETHEUS
THE SPACESHIP
Nostromo and Prometheus are two different spaceships, with two different purposes. That's not the issue. The issue is the presentation of the two ships. One shrouded in moody darkness, the other unceremoniously revealed in broad daylight.
I'm not too crazy about the design choice on the new ship either, but that's just personal preference.
I'll flat-out admit that both landings are pretty spectacular, but I respect the work done in Alien far more. No computer assistance back then. Those effect guys had to work for a living.
THE CREW
Then there's the crew. The first images released from Prometheus already caused some concern. Charlize Theron and Idris Elba looked too pretty.
The film confirmed the initial fear. The Prometheus crew looks completely bland and polished next to the rugged and rough Nostromo crew.
I also want to mention the horrible briefing scene in Prometheus. There's no equivalent in Alien, but there is in Alien vs. Predator (2004). Now you know you're in trouble!
An Alien-film cast looking at ancient crap. Sorry Ridley, Paul Anderson got there first...
The problem with the designs of Prometheus are perfectly illustrated when we look at the space suits. From rough, efficient work clothes in Alien:
To silly spandex, with plastic padding. This crew looks like it's ready to play futuristic hockey. And what's with the orange lines on Noomi Rapace's suit? Non-functional crap from a lazy designer.
But wait! What's this? At least one of the other crew members (meaning, not one of the fit, well-groomed stars) actually gets to wear a proper space suit! How about that?!
INTERIOR
The interior of the Prometheus is as badly designed as the rest of the film. First, look at the original Alien cockpit. How cool is that?
Now compare to the Prometheus design. Dull and uninspired.
The forward cockpit design:
And the controls design:
Is this a good time to remind everyone that Prometheus takes place 33 years BEFORE Alien?
TECH
I should shut up about the 33 years, but how can I in the face of the following examples?
The hypersleep chamber certainly got a downgrade.
So did the navigation tools:
...And the medical scanner:
And the medical facilities just looks silly, compared to the low key Alien design, though it's fair to argue that Nostromo just has a simple lab, whereas Prometheus is a research vessel. Still, what is the function of the light UNDER the table?
THE SPACE JOCKEY
My biggest beef with Prometheus is how it screws with the concepts Alien established. I would say it ruins them, but Prometheus is so inferior that it has no influence on my appreciation for Alien. In that respect the movies aren't in the same universe. Not even in the same dimension.
The control chair from the derelict spaceship in Alien was recreated for Prometheus. It's not the same ship, but the same design. The original film followed the designs of H. R. Giger perfectly.
Look at the details here:
Now let's look at the Prometheus version. Suddenly the control room (again: different ship SAME design) sports some odd hypersleep pods, which the film will put to (bad) use later. It also features a weird control chair. Why? The big chair in the middle controls the ship! What do you need another control chair for? And notice how the designs and the details on the walls look flat. They're completely missing that organic, boney design of the original.
The pilot aka the Space Jockey has also been altered. Again the original film followed Giger's design to a T. Take note of the size of the arm, relative to mounting bracket (or whatever that is). In the original design the lower arm is twice as big as that bracket is wide.
Now look at Prometheus. Suddenly the guy's ENTIRE arm is virtually the size of the bracket. Somehow that race grew to twice the size in 33 years, less actually, because the Alien specimen had been dead for a while.
Even in these other images, it's clear that the Space Jockey grew phenomenally from Prometheus to Alien:
As for the Spacey Jockey himself, it's clear that the remains found in Alien is a fossilized skeleton. It's hard to tell where the Space Jockey ends and where the chair begins, because the two have almost grown together.
But now in Prometheus. It's just a uniform! Yaaaaay! That's a GREAT idea. I mean, why wouldn't an alien race create a helmet design that looks like a different creature? And the fossilized bones are now just a seat belt.
That's safe and sweet. Ahhhh, now the kids can join in. No more nightmares about those awful creatures with elephant-like trunks, twice the size of humans. Now they're just tall guys with weird helmets, concerned about safety!
Here's a closer look at the helmet, the definition of a missed opportunity.
And if you're still wondering about those nice creatures... How can they be bad, when they wear proper underwear?
AND FINALLY
I'm gonna have to wait for the Bluray to make a proper comparison on some of the other elements in the films, but just in case it wasn't clear, Prometheus is shite.
Here's what it looks like when the space truckers of Alien are lured to a weird space ship:
And here's the Prometheus equivalent. A straight road, and cars:
This is what the original creature looks like:
And here's the one in prometheus:
One of them will still be talked about in another 30 years. The other will be forgotten next month. And while you ponder that, here is what the Prometheus filmmakers decided was a scary and interesting conclusion to their story.
A giant squid, eating a tall pale man. Oh joy. What's that old saying about pictures and words?
FINAL THOUGHTS
Prometheus was a massive disappointment, no sane person would claim otherwise. Even those who hate it, often say, "Well, at least it looked good".
I beg to differ. I think it looked stupid, and after these examples, are you really going to disagree?
All images copyright © 20th Century Fox
When you put it like that, indeed it is hard to disagree. Now I feel like rewatching Alien :)
ReplyDeleteNo sane person would claim it was good? You are so arrogant you feel you can say that? Alien was pre-historic and looked like it was made by grade-schoolers with light brights. Technology has made Prometheus what Alien should have been.
ReplyDeleteThank you for proving my point, Sir!
ReplyDeleteIgnore those who say Prometheus is good; you've made your point, but if you ask them why they like the film, they will just say "Prometheus 2 will explain and fix everything, it will be awesome!". This film is so bad at so many levels it actually hurts my brain. Good review/comparison!
ReplyDeleteOh yeah! I've heard THAT a million times! Thanx!
ReplyDeletePrometheus made Alien redundant. In 1979 we were introduced to two creatures that were truly "alien" to what humans are familiar with. We met these two amazing, but terrifying creatures that defied all logic and convention (thanks, Giger), for 40 years, we pondered over these two cinema menaces, our curiosity piqued, our fascination, stoked.
ReplyDeleteThen when Prometheus was released, we learned that these two impossibly Alien creatures are not really that alien at all, in fact, both of them are direct descendants of humans, in a round about way. The SJ's were the progenitor of man, instead of them being "otherworldly" beings that grew with their equally alien ships, they turned out be tall WWE rejects, painted white. Suffering from hair loss. Then we learned that the dreaded "perfect creature, it's structural perfection matched only by it's hostility" turned out to be the offspring of a shitty religious zealot, quasi scientist.
Well, when you put it like that it kinda sounds like they fumbled the ball! Oh, they DID!
DeleteAnd the funny thing is that many fascinating creatures actually did exist on earth! we have found some of the most bizzare looking creatures fossized from an era bygone, for ex: the Spartobranchus tenuis and hallucigenia, the reality itself has made more creative beings than this awful movie's writers.
ReplyDeleteHow come the the filmmakers with all their artistic freedom cannot come up with anything better than a 10ft tall angry giant albino dude!? why not have 5 limbs? why not have spikes? why not have no eyes like Xenomorph? 3rd graders can come up with more creative designs.
Hell, they could've at least made his mannerisms more alien like or weird. but no! the elusive giant creature is reduced to some angry albino dude! such disrespect to Giger...
Prometheus can go fuck right off with The Thing 2011, both shitty prequels and a total disgrace to the franchise.
Anyway, i agree with your realism point, everything from space suits,lab etc were made to look realistic&sleek instead of this cartoony spandex&holographic crap in Prometheus.
Great point! Look to nature for effed up design! It's already done the work for you...
DeleteYep....Prometheus had no redeeming features I can list. Maybe some cinematography. Why Ridley Scott bothered after reading the script...who knows. The first Alien remains a classic (but don't bother with 'The directors cut' edition.)
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